Nov 1, 2019
We're back it is Friday at the 35 acres and a microphone podcast farm I'm Aaron Goodwin, you are already here if you are within the sound of my voice. If you would do me a solid and share with a friend or post on a wall or tweet about this podcast that pays tribute to the true school of hip hop. Old school.. Real throwbacks. Not the 90's. I've said before the years we research are from 1980ish to 1989. And new jack swing's start signaled the movements end as radio play for the format rhythm chr or rhymthmic had been born. It was a Latino hispanic based format that eventually turned to a more afro-centric type feel as teddy Riley/ guy.. jodeci, and so many more... started taking the lead
I qualify myself as a radio historian. Being in rhythm radio at the beginning and a fan of it, prior to. I live in a very agricultural area of central California and have retired from radio and now do parties and weddings asa mobile dj. This podcast is a labor of love for the fans and it helps me cope with all the crazy in the world and the actual action of producing voice and the types of things I did at radio I can do through this lil project. season 2 after a one year hiatus. 10 thousand downloads world wide weekly and it is neat being here in a America. Northern California.. and seeing the messages from our socials or the adds at the Facebook page and the foreign folks around the world. Names in other languages. How the culture invaded the far away china as American culture spawned there in the 80's and how asians rule the breakdance world in my opinion its all very cool and that drives me to the work to make this thing happen.
All for Love is the third studio album by American R&B quintet New Edition, released by MCA Records on November 8, 1985. The album was certified platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA). Also, this would be the final studio album to feature original group member Bobby Brown, who would shortly depart for a solo career until he would later return for their 1996 comeback album with the group, Home Again.
By Spring 1985, New Edition was one of the biggest pop acts in the world after the success of their self-titled second album released the year before. However, the group was now in mortgage to MCA Records, as a result of having borrowed money from the label to disentangle themselves from a stifling production deal they mistakenly signed during the recording of their previous album. As a result, All for Love would become the first in a cluster of albums the group would be forced to record during this period to work off its debt. And While most of the members were comfortable with the group's direction, Bobby Brown was becoming increasingly discontent and unappreciative with its bubblegum pop image.
Brown was also agitated at having not been more prominently featured as a lead vocalist on the album. Vincent Brantley, the album's main producer, had originally sought to give Brown more solo spots. However, MCA balked at this idea — insisting that Ralph Tresvant continue to be used on principal vocals. During a national tour in Oakland, California to promote the album, Brown often cut in on Tresvant's leads, performing more raunchily onstage, compared to his band mates. Also, Brown angered the group's management by disrespectfully throwing his mike in the air and being ungrateful when not getting his way onstage. Growing tension between Brown and his band mates eventually reached a standoff, which contributed to his being terminated from the group in December 1985. Following Brown's departure, New Edition would continue to promote All for Love as a quartet. Lets get to the singles which are some of the strongest the new edition ever did. The neat thing about rhythm in these days is you didn't know the name and artist but you sure knew the songs by sound. Made everyone an a&r person back then. Because you knew what you were hearing was genius and Ralph tresvant might very well be the best ever and beyond Michael Jackson as far as some were concerned back then as the best voice in r and b. And when you go back and listen. You can totally see the reason for the comparison and why Mca made the decision to keep him as lead once they secured them for the mortgage albums as the band thought. Without knowing the drama, I think in my mind these were some of the best bubble gummy bad ass tunes that were coming out tracks like
"Count Me Out",
"Count Me Out" was released as a single in September 1985 on the MCA . Much like the group's earliest single, "Cool It Now", again, lead singer Ralph Tresvant is warned by his friends (co-members Bobby Brown, Ronnie DeVoe, Ricky Bell and Michael Bivins) to not fall for a girl after he told them to "count him out" of any activities that they had planned to do much to his friends' dismay.
The song's music video was notable for Brown's absence as he had broken from the group around the time of the video. Only Tresvant, DeVoe, Bell, and Bivins were in the video and parts of the song that originally belonged to Brown were lipsynced by Bell. Brown's vocals remain on the song. Despite a modest showing at number fifty-one on the pop singles chart, the song reached number two on the Billboard R&B singles chart. And here again as we talk about rhythm radio and the eighties the overt racism by mgrs and ads at radio opted to not buy in in markets like where I live a predominantly at the time white area. Older white male owners. Simply like the vote in California where you see the big cities they had radioes there and in those big cities new edition got played due to demographics
This is the second week of the new edition feature on my podcast the old school rewind last week's is posted and maybe in your downloads go check it out.
We're parlaying and displaying.. the type of term you'd have heard back then. Car culture lowrider, The language has changed
And the new edition are going through times in their life where
they are old for sophomoric bubblegum tracks, but due to them each
taking equal loans to buy out themselves from the prior deal they
were in debt. And for me and my listening these are the magical
songs and the music was progressing as it should
The next single up from all for love is a little bit of love is all it takes. A favorite of mine and as I wiki'd to find some information on this single. There I nothing out there. Which to me is perplexing. Save that for another podcast. Let your ears do the listening and you'll feel the feel of new edition more than many of their tracks..
play a little bit of love is all it takes
This is the second episode where one wasn't enough to feature the stellar work of the new edition. We're up to and maybe because I was a sophomoric kid going through the high school years I'm more clued into the broken heart girls being true to your girl. Alll of the things you'd expect from a ballad that is what NE was so good at doing
Play "With You All the Way".
Toward the year's end, Christmas All Over The World, a holiday EP, was released as well as an oldies album of tunes from the '50s sung by the group with an '80s production style. Earth Angel feat lil Anthony
By 1987, New Edition was a group in transition. The band members were aging out of their teens into their twenties, and sought for their image and sound to reflect their coming of age. In addition to employing the famed production team of Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis to help steer the music in a new direction, they also recruited Washington, D.C.-based baritone/tenor Johnny Gill—who, in 1984, had scored a hit with R&B singer Stacy Lattisaw on "Perfect Combination". The New Edition members had actually known Gill since they released their hit "Candy Girl" in 1983 and Gill released his R&B Top 30 hit "Super Love" that same year. They had joked that they would let him in the group if he could improve his dancing skills. Prompting Gill’s entrance into the group was when lead singer Ralph Tresvant considered recording a solo album. To circumvent New Edition being left without a lead singer, Michael Bivins suggested bringing in 20-year-old Gill to replace him. Gill accepted the invitation, joining the group in the spring of 1987. Tresvant, however, wasn’t ready to leave— resulting in New Edition, inadvertently, becoming a quintet again as they began production on their fifth album, Heart Break.
While most of Heart Break features principal vocals by Tresvant, with occasional solos by Ricky Bell, Gill’s voice is significantly displayed as the secondary lead throughout the album. Gill took the lead on the track “Boys to Men”- a song in which the singer initially resisted and resented recording, feeling it was too juvenile. "Boys To Men" became one of the album's most popular numbers, despite it never being officially released as a single. Another standout album track was “Competition,” a song written by Tresvant that addresses the disappointment felt over the departure of Bobby Brown two years earlier.
One song in particular, "Where It All Started", was a thinly veiled jab at New Kids on the Block. The group was discovered by their former producer Maurice Starr as a direct response to New Edition severing ties with him on less than amicable terms.
In an ironic twist, Jam & Lewis- the writers and producers behind the song- would also work with New Kids on the Block's lead singer Jordan Knight on his 1999 self-titled debut a little over a decade later. The two groups would later team up for a duet on the latter's 2008 reunion album The Block.
"If It Isn't Love" from 1988 and the first single from Heart Break. The song became the biggest hit from that album, getting into the top ten of the US Billboard Hot 100, peaking at number seven, and reached the second position on the Hot Black Singles chart. Its chart performance and well-received music video garnered the quintet their first nomination for Best R&B Performance by a "Duo or Group with Vocals" at the 31st Grammy Awards in February 1989. The song and video is also notable for being the introduction of fellow R&B singer Johnny Gill as a new member of the R&B quintet. Many have called this particular album the most seminal New Edition album. Four fans from Philadelphia in particular were inspired by one of the songs on the album. "Boys to Men", the song that Johnny Gill hated recording, ended up becoming the name of the group who changed their name to Boyz II Men. The group would end up being managed and mentored by Michael Bivins. Boyz II Men names New Edition as one of their most influential bands. The album also saw a successful concert tour for the group as well. Through 1988 and 1989, New Edition toured all over the world with opening acts, ex-New Edition member Bobby Brown (who had also found big time success with his breakthrough album, Don't Be Cruel) and Al B. Sure!.
Interesting note the R&B group Jagged Edge named their sophomore album J.E. Heartbreak as a tribute to Heart Break The new edition album. Here's the first single
Play if it isn't love
We're up to the second single Written and produced by Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis with Ralph Tresvant, Johnny Gill and Ricky Bell on lead vocals, this mid-tempo song is about a man being fancied by a woman who he thinks is not his type, and is trying to gently let her down. His friends, meanwhile, can’t understand his lack of interest in said female, who they believe is a catch.
No matter all the success Though the song was a sizable hit on urban radio, peaking at #3 on the R&B charts in the fall of 1988— unlike its predecessor, “If It Isn’t Love,” it failed to make the same impression on Billboard’s Hot 100 singles chart—where it peaked at #95. The radio still hasn't changed but has made mark-ed progress at this time in 1988.. The music video for “You’re Not My Kind of Girl” is set to a concert performance of the song (which was led in by the music video for “If It Isn’t Love.”) The concert was held at Sony Pictures Studios in Culver City, California. New Edition held a radio contest for tickets to the taping, which were won by LA resident, Viveca McGuire.
Play. You're Not My Kind of Girl"
this is the second of two episodes of new edition being highlighted here on the podcast for the true school. The old school rewind. new edition is on and the album heart break is up I'm Aaron Goodwin. If you like what you hear or think you know someone who would appreciate the show. Share and subscribe for me. Add and subscribe at Apple Podcasts iTunes. Or wherever you get your podcasts I-heart. Stitcher audio is also posted to youtube search old school rewind podcast copy tweet insta. Snapchat spread the word and thank you again for your ear time.. One of new editions best songs
"Can You Stand the Rain" was released on December 13, 1988 by MCA Records as the third single from their fifth studio album, Heart Break. It was Written and produced by Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis with Johnny Gill, Ralph Tresvant and Ricky Bell on lead vocals and Michael Bivins with a spoken piece, "Can You Stand the Rain" is about a relationship presently going well, but the man is asking the woman if he can count on her to remain by his side, in case things should ever become stormy.
Despite "Can You Stand The Rain" failing to reach the Hot 100 top forty, peaking instead at number 44, it became New Edition's fourth single to top Billboard's R&B singles chart. when you watch the video, much like the stuff from the solo career of Ralph sings great. He cannot dance. He looks like he dances to fast lol aww just clownin right now
"Can You Stand the Rain" was sampled by New Edition themselves covered by Boyz II Men for their 1997 album, Evolution.
In 2001, freestyle singers Safire & Cynthia turned the song into a freestyle/club jam,
In 2003, the song was also covered by Guy Sebastian, the first winner of Australian Idol,
Was on making the band
In 2008, gospel group The Murrills covered the song with alternative lyrics for their album,
"Can You Stand the Rain" was sampled by Big Sean for his single "My Last" featuring Chris Brown.
featured during the Lip-synching scene in the 2013 holiday film, The Best Man Holiday
Even featured in the season 15 of the The Voice performed by contestants from team Adam
Play Can you stand the rain
Final track and closer for this weeks show. "N.E. Heart Break" fifth and final single from their sixth studio album Heart Break (1988).
"N.E. Heart Break" peaked at number 13 on the Billboard R&B singles chart. The music video for the song depicts the group members riding mopeds after finishing their Heart Break tour. The music video featured cameos from Malcolm Jamal Warner (who also directed the video), Heavy D & The Boyz (The group's labelmate), Shanice Wilson, The Boys, Robert Townsend, and Brooke Payne, who also appeared in the "If It Isn't Love" video. The version of the song featured in the video is the single version, rather than the one featured on the studio album.